I think I see what you are saying. You are pointing out that I also use biased language. That's tue, I am biased.
But I try. I really try to not be.
If there was a little community party about Jesus in a community where they were in the minority, and people without knowledge criticized their motivation and their morality, I would consider that rude, as I consider it rude to do that to Hindus.
I just began watching the movie Ghandi. Yes, I know, I'm a bit late. Still, I like how there was solidarity among the different religions for the rights on Indians in British-ruled India. Of course, he was assassinated. I'm only at the beginning of the movie.
I'm glad to see you still posting. I hope Tom returns someday. I'll help with putting letters up when I get resettled from my trip.
"Look at the situation, why do you feel the need to always blame me for other peoples prejudices?"
I guess I would ask you the same question in return... I am a white, straight male, who works in Law Enforcement. Maybe I am way off but those are three major strikes against me with you...
"I think I see what you are saying. You are pointing out that I also use biased language. That's tue, I am biased."
That's exactly where I was going. For all the ills that have befallen you in your personal life surely being a tolerant, openminded; (dare I say liberal person) you of all people should understand that not all people are the same and cannot be treated or thought of as the same.
"But I try. I really try to not be."
I do respect your point of view. Even though we may not agree on much, well or anything really. I too try... I fully admit I don't do a great job. I also wear my heart on my sleeve.
"If there was a little community party about Jesus in a community where they were in the minority, and people without knowledge criticized their motivation and their morality, I would consider that rude, as I consider it rude to do that to Hindus."
Thanks for the correction, Ajai, I should have looked more carefully...I knew there was an 'h' in there but got the order wrong!
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We can all focus on what makes us different if we want to. I'm different from you two because I'm female, different from Ajai because I'm straight, different from COE because I'm not a Christian, and so on.
Everyone has biases, like it or not. I think it a worthwhile effort to recognize them and to try to overcome them, but we're all human, we all judge, and we make mistakes in the process.
I was recently reminded of a couple of incidents that happened to me right here in safe, enlightened Corvallis. A couple of years ago I was walking on campus and a couple of punk guys (sorry, that is what they are) threw something at me as they drove by. I was in shock and physically hurt (not seriously, but it was painful). Once I recovered from the shock I realized that my shirt was dirty because what they had thrown at me was a half-eaten burrito. These people didn't know me and I felt it was directed at me because I am female; I doubt they would have done that to a male who might kick their asses.
The other incident also happened on campus about a month ago. I was walking on campus again and another couple of punks drove by and the passenger yelled a very long, graphic sexual remark at me. I was, again, in shock.
I felt horrible during both of these encounters and almost depressed that people would act that way toward me. Then I realized that it had nothing to do with me and said everything about the poverty of the souls of those men.
It is sad that there are people who need to act rudely, violently, and in a discriminating manner toward others. However, I do not lump all men or young men or male college students into the category of those idiots.
Terrible story! Just so you know, something very similar happened to me a few months back. I was on campus and a bunch of guys drove by, yelled some obscenity at me and threw something (they missed, but I think it was food...).
What's up with that?? I agree with COE, "poverty of the soul" is a great line.
Oh, and Ajai and COE, I know you two agree on many things because I know both of you. It'd be cool to find those areas where you agree.
I'd start with, you both oppose child abuse...and go from there. ;0)
I'm slowly making my way back to the blog...sorry about the absence!
It seems from the comments that some people are pretty intolerant of other cultures and religions.
ReplyDeleteWell, Benjamin anyways, the 'Christian' that is envious of publicity.
ReplyDeleteDamn Christians...
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ReplyDeleteI know, another religion can't even have a party without them getting all irate.
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ReplyDeleteI know, I hate when "They" get all irate over things...
ReplyDelete"Those" people just need to get a clue...
ReplyDeleteHey, I'm happy your still posting. Sorry if I offended you.
ReplyDeleteLook at the situation, why do you feel the need to always blame me for other peoples prejudices?
You are the person lumping all 'Christians' into one amalgamation. Not I.
The 'Christians' are not the ones being singled out here, can you not see that?
It's the same mentality that sees a cross burning and immediately assumes they did it to themselves.
I learned alot in my difference, power, and discrimination courses, I strongly recommend them.
ReplyDeleteI think I see what you are saying. You are pointing out that I also use biased language. That's tue, I am biased.
ReplyDeleteBut I try. I really try to not be.
If there was a little community party about Jesus in a community where they were in the minority, and people without knowledge criticized their motivation and their morality, I would consider that rude, as I consider it rude to do that to Hindus.
I just began watching the movie Ghandi. Yes, I know, I'm a bit late. Still, I like how there was solidarity among the different religions for the rights on Indians in British-ruled India. Of course, he was assassinated. I'm only at the beginning of the movie.
ReplyDeleteI'm glad to see you still posting. I hope Tom returns someday. I'll help with putting letters up when I get resettled from my trip.
"Look at the situation, why do you feel the need to always blame me for other peoples prejudices?"
ReplyDeleteI guess I would ask you the same question in return... I am a white, straight male, who works in Law Enforcement. Maybe I am way off but those are three major strikes against me with you...
"I think I see what you are saying. You are pointing out that I also use biased language. That's tue, I am biased."
That's exactly where I was going. For all the ills that have befallen you in your personal life surely being a tolerant, openminded; (dare I say liberal person) you of all people should understand that not all people are the same and cannot be treated or thought of as the same.
"But I try. I really try to not be."
I do respect your point of view. Even though we may not agree on much, well or anything really. I too try... I fully admit I don't do a great job. I also wear my heart on my sleeve.
"If there was a little community party about Jesus in a community where they were in the minority, and people without knowledge criticized their motivation and their morality, I would consider that rude, as I consider it rude to do that to Hindus."
I comepletely agree, and I am glad for it!
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ReplyDeleteNot to be an annoying spell check guy Vicky, but its "Gandhi."
ReplyDeleteI have no problems with a person being White, or Straight, or male, or in law enforcement. It is the content of a persons character that interests me.
ReplyDelete...and I'm not even that judgemental about that.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the correction, Ajai, I should have looked more carefully...I knew there was an 'h' in there but got the order wrong!
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We can all focus on what makes us different if we want to. I'm different from you two because I'm female, different from Ajai because I'm straight, different from COE because I'm not a Christian, and so on.
Everyone has biases, like it or not. I think it a worthwhile effort to recognize them and to try to overcome them, but we're all human, we all judge, and we make mistakes in the process.
I was recently reminded of a couple of incidents that happened to me right here in safe, enlightened Corvallis. A couple of years ago I was walking on campus and a couple of punk guys (sorry, that is what they are) threw something at me as they drove by. I was in shock and physically hurt (not seriously, but it was painful). Once I recovered from the shock I realized that my shirt was dirty because what they had thrown at me was a half-eaten burrito. These people didn't know me and I felt it was directed at me because I am female; I doubt they would have done that to a male who might kick their asses.
The other incident also happened on campus about a month ago. I was walking on campus again and another couple of punks drove by and the passenger yelled a very long, graphic sexual remark at me. I was, again, in shock.
I felt horrible during both of these encounters and almost depressed that people would act that way toward me. Then I realized that it had nothing to do with me and said everything about the poverty of the souls of those men.
It is sad that there are people who need to act rudely, violently, and in a discriminating manner toward others. However, I do not lump all men or young men or male college students into the category of those idiots.
'Even though we may not agree on much, well or anything really'
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It's cool, I misspelled 'judgmental,' and when you get into Indian words or names, forget about it...
ReplyDelete"I realized that it had nothing to do with me and said everything about the poverty of the souls of those men."
ReplyDeleteWow, well said. I like the sound of that. Poverty of the soul... Just out of curiosity, do you believe in "souls"?
"do you believe in "souls""
ReplyDeleteNot in the sense of a soul that lives on after the body dies. I mean it in the sense of higher consciousness or in the sense of the psyche.
I believe in soul music.
ReplyDeleteSoul food...
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ReplyDeleteTerrible story! Just so you know, something very similar happened to me a few months back. I was on campus and a bunch of guys drove by, yelled some obscenity at me and threw something (they missed, but I think it was food...).
What's up with that?? I agree with COE, "poverty of the soul" is a great line.
Oh, and Ajai and COE, I know you two agree on many things because I know both of you. It'd be cool to find those areas where you agree.
I'd start with, you both oppose child abuse...and go from there. ;0)
I'm slowly making my way back to the blog...sorry about the absence!
Oh, sorry Tom that you had a similar experience. I've got to wonder what this trend is about.
ReplyDeleteI've had similar experiences on campus when I went to school. Maybe it's some of that deviant behavior that's so popular with mercenaries these days.
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