I know this blog is not used much anymore, but I needed to mention a few posters. Resilire seems to have been banned, all their comments that were in threads yesterday are completely absent today. Wish I knew what they wrote that finally pushed him over the edge.
N-titled ain't no liberal. It pisses me off that honest poster like Barefoot were removed when others so blatantly break the 'be honest' rule.
mynamewas is Michelle O'bell, I can tell because he called me Akia in the thread about the couple whose house burned down.
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N-Titled is a raging idiot... I do find it somewhat "funny" that he/she takes the supposed liberal route to fire people up. It's so under used really... Got to love the anonimity<spelling of the online world!
ReplyDeleteI always thought that N-titled is another one of Resilrie/Carpe Diem/Phoenix/.... multiple personalities. Seriously. No, he/she is not liberal. It's all heavy sarcasm.
ReplyDeleteI know, it is sad what happened when Barefoot was a poster on the GT and what has transpired since.
I know this blog doesn't get as much traffic as it once did, but I still come here and am always glad to see some posts :)
(And I'm still meaning to read your most recent movie review, Ajai).
Panzzer said on: May 2, 2011, 9:28 am
ReplyDeleteAhhhh, the joys of race-mixing...
http://www.democratherald.com/news/local/article_e16ef69f-cabe-502c-b241-72b4451ccc0c.html?mode=comments
Consorti is Carpe/Phoenix/Resilrie/N-titles.
ReplyDeleteConsori said on: May 8, 2011, 7:51 pm
ReplyDeleteWow! Good for you!! According to many of the know it all posters in another thread about a church doing a memorial for aborted kids the parents of the kids you are now the mother of should have had them vacuumed out of their bodies because they couldn't afford them and it is their "choice" and no one would want them anyway. Consider this a collective finger to those of you who made such remarks.
God bless you for your selfless giving!
http://www.gazettetimes.com/news/local/article_a9d843d0-7940-11e0-940b-001cc4c03286.html?mode=comments
I reported this.
ReplyDeleteEugene said on: May 9, 2011, 10:32 am
Whatever, VH. You have taught your kid to be a momma's boy--you gonna keep wiping his butt when he's full grown too? Your gonna sue cause your kid has 'special' rights because you think comradery amongst males is ALWAYS groping or bullying. I feel sorry for your son who is going to have trouble finding his way out of your liberal trap.
http://www.democratherald.com/news/local/article_157e3bac-77a8-11e0-993e-001cc4c03286.html?mode=comments
Thanks, Ajai. I emailed Nancy, the online editor because this is getting creepy the way Eugene specifically targets my posts with nasty comments.
ReplyDeleteEugene said on: May 9, 2011, 1:44 pm
ReplyDeleteAjai knows all about dope as he was found in possession of 5.31 grams of pot on 7/16/2009 after refusing to cooperate with police. A subsequent search warrant revealed the illegal substance. So, I believe his statement (and experience) with vaporizers.
http://gazettetimes.com/news/opinion/mailbag/article_ff6a3d64-7939-11e0-a55a-001cc4c03286.html?mode=comments
As of now, they still haven't removed the attack Eugene posted against me. It's amazing that he poses as morally superior then stoops to this as his contribution to the conversation.
ReplyDeleteI hope you will write Nancy and email as well, Ajai.
ReplyDeleteI wasn't going to post in response to Eugene, but it has been hours since Nancy acknowledged my email and said she would look into it. The post attacking me still hasn't been removed and he continues to post nasty remarks against Ajai...so, I posted this:
ReplyDeleteV.H. said on: May 9, 2011, 3:41 pm
What do you do, Eugene, keep a file on people you don't like on this blog with all of what you deem are their immoral behaviors? That's called stalking and it's pretty creepy.
Eugene said on: May 9, 2011, 4:07 pm
ReplyDeleteNice VH--So you apparently approve of marijuana use--do you smoke it with your son too? I mean if you're not fined it's ok--according to Ajai. Pot slumber party--yep you're the moral one.
for the record.
ReplyDeleteEugene said on: May 9, 2011, 3:26 pm
Well, that's good for your wallet. The FACTS are that you were in possession and acted in a suspicious and uncooperative manner with the authorities. People driving under influence of marijuana is extremely dangerous to others.
Eugene said on: May 9, 2011, 3:05 pm
What charge-everyone knows that possession of less than an ounce is not a crime--now I suppose you're going to tell us you don't use it. Medicinal, recreational, makes no difference, it is a harmful substance that makes lazy people even more lazy and well, stupid.
Eugene said on: May 9, 2011, 3:57 pm
Here's a valuable principle: people who refuse to cooperate with police and act suspiciously are not the best role models and are usually hiding guilt--whether they skate or not!
The posts have been removed. Bout time.
ReplyDeleteYes, it tool all day. Nancy was kind enough to email me back and ask for links to the comments...I'm not sure if she is the one removing them or not, but she told me that she would look at them and let Eugene know that he is being monitored. I cut and pasted the deleted ones from here, so it is good to know that we have not wasted time documenting this :)
ReplyDeleteBravo you two!! Sorry, I haven't been keeping up with the comments in the paper, but I just saw this thread of comments and it looks like you have been doing a great job!!
ReplyDeleteI'm also glad this blog has been useful!
Oops! Sorry 'bout the confusion! I was signed in to the PFLAG gmail account when I sent that last message. That message was from me...Tom!
ReplyDeleteHey Tom, thanks!
ReplyDeleteI got a nice email from Nancy with an apology that a blogger was attacking me (as well as Ajai). Nice to know they DO consider those posts inappropriate.
Interesting. Looks like they have taken away the option to read the comments on the Dan Savage article
ReplyDeletehttp://www.gazettetimes.com/news/local/article_e1273d68-7ae0-11e0-91ba-001cc4c002e0.html
I had reported Jim for going off topic by attacking Muslims. Don't know if that had something to do with it.
I know, I tried to look at that a little earlier too. I had the thought that maybe they are just going to nip this in the bud considering the history of inflamed comments on any article regarding homosexuals. Oh, and yeah, Muslims, gays, atheists, whatever!
ReplyDeleteHmmm...I'm starting to wonder if Srjim got banned...
ReplyDeleteOh..he's back. never mind....
ReplyDeleteAjai didn't post the comments here but Mr. G and Eugene are on the attack again, bringing up a charge of pot use, completely intended to discredit Ajai.
ReplyDeleteIt's really sick.
Eugene said on: May 23, 2011, 1:30 pm
ReplyDeleteI'd be willing to bet since you don't think it should be unlawful, if your son was found with pot you'd not report it to the authorities--like it or not, it's still against the law.
Nancy removed the posts. She also said that later this year the comments section will require actual names. I don't really mind and maybe some of the attackers will refrain?
ReplyDeleteWhile I'm happy about the end result (that the stupid posts were removed), I'm sad that the ultimate result will be that people won't be allowed to post anonymously. I think it's important to keep that option open. To let a few ruin it for others doesn't seem fair to me.
ReplyDeleteYes, I was thinking about this last night and I will likely be inhibited from posting on certain topics because it could affect my job. As a fed., there are certain topics that one must tread around lightly. There are some in the workplace (admin) proposing that whenever there is an accident of any kind on work time, that a drug test be run. Don't you think that posting about legalizing pot is going to put suspicion in the minds of those people? I know that there are reasons for COE not wanting to post with a real name either, also job related.
ReplyDeleteMan, I'm tired of those assholes.
ReplyDeleteThere, that's better.
Yeah, I would have to stop posting. Especially on topics such as law enforcement, drugs, gun control, and simple things like budget issues such as PERS member stuff, and City/County issues... Geeze nearly all topics could get me in hot water :)
ReplyDeleteWell, frankly, I don't know how they could monitor it anyway. I mean, what's to keep me from calling myself Frank Sinatra? How do they know what my actual name is?
ReplyDeleteInteresting, thanks for the info. I had trouble accessing this site on my trip, but couldn't help myself from posting to the GT.
ReplyDeleteI'll take your 'Man, I'm tired of all these assholes,' and give you one loud,
'I hear you, sister!'
;)
ReplyDeleteWelcome back, Ajai! Hope you enjoyed your trip.
Mr. G said on: May 30, 2011, 10:35 am
ReplyDeletePotheads who smoke and choose to drive certainly endanger us. Just read the news. Lots of offenders, some are even active in the gay community and wear hats made of fruit. Don't you agree Ajai?
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ReplyDeleteAjai
Ajai said at: May 30, 2011, 3:40 pm
I think you need to check your meds.
Posted in: Letter: Pot smokers endanger no one (12) Comments
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Mr. G
Mr. G said at: May 30, 2011, 5:43 pm
I smoke my meds but never drive afterwards, unlike some who are active in the gay community and wear hats made of fruit. I would never endanger others so recklessly.
Posted in: Letter: Pot smokers endanger no one (12) Comments
Ajai said at: May 30, 2011, 5:51 pm
I see. And do these visions haunt you regularly, or is it chronic?
Posted in: Letter: Pot smokers endanger no one (12) Comments
Ajai said at: May 30, 2011, 6:17 pm
"I smoke my meds but never drive afterwards" Yes, well maybe after you smoke your meds you should also refrain from commenting. Just a thought.
Posted in: Letter: Pot smokers endanger no one (12) Comments
http://www.gazettetimes.com/news/opinion/mailbag/article_5ec287a3-e5cc-5281-9f30-1dad4cf3d23a.html?mode=comments
Mr. G said on: May 30, 2011, 7:31 pm
ReplyDeleteAre you trying to bully me into being silent? I'm shocked, shocked I say, by your behavior. I hereby sentence you to attend a play aimed at solving the bullying problem by feminizing the male population. That should kill your bullying instinct.
The GT comments section is becoming pure trash. I, once again, am finding myself not wanting to post there.
ReplyDeleteI hear what you're saying, I pretty much feel the same way. If I have something to post I'll still post it, but I'll try even harder to keep my interaction with the riff raff to a minimum.
ReplyDeleteI reported Mr. G's stupid comments. It is getting old having to alert the editors to the trash.
ReplyDeleteWhat bugs me is after it's reported, and I reported it as well, they scrub your ability to post their again, in essence, punishing you for being attacked and reporting it.
ReplyDeleteEugene said on: June 1, 2011, 9:26 am
ReplyDeleteJust cause you want to continue smoking your weed doesn't mean you aren't a danger to others behind the wheel
I will post the comment you wanted there :)
ReplyDeleteNope, it looks like they closed off all commenting on that thread...weird way of doing things!
ReplyDeleteI think he was referring to me.
ReplyDeletemynamewas said on: June 15, 2011, 5:52 pm
What a turd you are ajax with the way you snibble and #### about those that dont openly except the gay crowd or your rants of divirsity yet you call a woman stupid, quite the retard you are and I dont mean to offend the disabled.
http://www.democratherald.com/news/opinion/editorial/article_d670da5c-977b-11e0-8838-001cc4c03286.html?mode=comments
In response to my post in quotes:
ReplyDeleteEugene said on: June 17, 2011, 1:51 pm
"My son had a great time."
I truly feel sorry for this kid.
edgar hahn jr said on: June 17, 2011, 7:48 pm
ReplyDelete"Dear Ore.Cat.org: He, he, he!!!!! Trying to sound intelligent. Yes, the white man won the "Indian Wars", but that was a century ago. Know matter how hard you cry "foul"; you can't change history. The Indians didn't know how to manage a country. They were nothing but thieves, and beggers. I probably have more college credits than you have; unless, you are a "professional student", but you sound more like: A "draft-dodging, pot-smoking, limp-wristed liberal, hippy, communist". Go in the military and get a real education. Native American Indians in the past were not afraid to fight and die for their country. You're just a "spoiled college brat"!!!!!!!! He, he, he!!!!!!!"
http://www.democratherald.com/news/opinion/mailbag/article_b287258c-983f-11e0-8b1f-001cc4c03286.html?mode=comments
Eugene said on: June 20, 2011, 11:59 am
ReplyDeleteBut of course straight people are not cool according to Tom. Celebrate perversion all you want, but no thanks.
Eugene said on: June 20, 2011, 1:10 pm
ReplyDeleteI neither fear or hate you, Ajai, so get over with your little catch words. It's the open promotion of your perversion that I and many others oppose that is the problem.
Eugene said on: June 20, 2011, 3:36 pm
ReplyDelete"They weren't in vogue when my son was a toddler.."
Neither was gay-dances, legalized pot, or pre-marital sex, but you advocate and teach your son these are good things. What a cop-out. That's being a parent and doing your job?
Eugene said on: June 20, 2011, 3:58 pm
ReplyDelete:...yet don't want to allow gay people to get married,"
Gay people can get married, just not to members of the same sex, because again, marriage is defined as one man and one woman. You keep ####ing about equality, but a man with a man will never be equal to one man and one woman.
I didn't cut and paste all the 'pervert/perversion' comments posted by Eugene today on the thread about the Steven Leider Scholarship fundraiser, but I did report them.
ReplyDeleteIt's another one of those days where I feel beaten down by Eugene. I am so saddened that someone has such hatred and yet paints those who are fighting for equal rights of all as the hostile ones with hatred. I feel I have failed to make a difference by posting there.
I read all the posts. You and Ajai are an important beacon of light. Please don't feel bad, I believe you really are making a difference. Hang in there Vicky!!
ReplyDeleteYou are AWESOME!!!
Yeah, don't let that moron get you down, he's purposefully deceitful. Your responses are great.
ReplyDeleteA temporary moment of weakness. I'm committed to keeping balance on these threads so that the bullies don't dominate ;)
ReplyDeletethanks for the support you guys.
I wrote this in response to Steve.
ReplyDeleteAjai said at: June 23, 2011, 11:18 am
For the record, homosexuality is already legitimate.
Posted in: New LGBTQ scholarship honors departing staffer (72) Comments
Read more: http://www.gazettetimes.com/app/community/latest-comments/#ixzz1Q7zRa5za
only to return and find my post deleted with this in response.
Editors Note * A quick note from the moderator: I do not favor one side more than the other. If you attack each other, make offensive or potentially libelous comments, you will be deleted. Repeated offenses could result in being banned from our site. We do not monitor every comment, only the ones flagged for our attention. We welcome you here, but strongly encourage both sides to act like adults.
Read more: http://www.gazettetimes.com/news/local/article_3c311f98-9ca2-11e0-8f2a-001cc4c002e0.html?mode=comments#ixzz1Q80TSJhz
Can anyone make sense out of this.
I called Nancy, and she said it was an OE in Albany who deleted it. She said she fixed it, which I am grateful for, because it made it look like I wrote incendiary comments.
ReplyDeleteWhat's strange is that I tried to post a comment just now on that thread and can't. Why did they say they closed down commenting, let people post again, and now closed it (apparently)?
ReplyDeleteYeah, me too, Nancy said I'd be able to, but she also didn't know that the thread was closed for commenting. I agree it's screwy. She said it was the DH online editor, Mckehenneky, and she gave me his number and email. I don't really have the energy to call and ask him why he thought 'Homosexuality is legitimate,' was not appropriate, or why the online editing has been so screwy. Perhaps I will email him later.
ReplyDeleteFor now, I am happy that his screwy note was removed from the post with my name heading it.
Though I also think it's too bad that they shut down threads, when only a handful of people make it a problem.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the info. I did report the two most recent posts, one by Steve and another by Eugene using 'perversion' like a broken record. Hopefully they will be deleted.
ReplyDeleteAnother screwy note:
ReplyDeleteAjai said on: June 23, 2011, 10:09 am
Editors Note * 'I work with a couple of homosexuals, personally like both of them but also believe that it is a perversion.' The poster is expressing an opinion, not directly attacking anybody or expressing potentially libelous statements. The comment will be allowed to stand.
http://www.gazettetimes.com/news/local/article_71263a64-85cb-11e0-8d78-001cc4c03286.html?mode=comments
I am not sure why he put this note over your comment. I reported Steve's 'perversion' comment. Unless you did as well, but why he is writer over a comment of yours is beyond me.
And the thread appears to be closed.
I clicked "Report Abuse" on the Editors note and request that he remove his "opinion" given that he had not offered an "opinion" on any other subject that I have seen.
ReplyDeleteThe post appears to have been removed. However, I plan to email those in the various organizations I'm involved with and let them know about his comments. This City has a non-discrimination policy and I think the OE just violated that policy.
I talked to Mckehenneky, and he agreed to remove the post, he couldn't explain why it was changed, only that it may have been a mistake where the post gets deleted when he adds a note. I was happy he removed it, but I didn't get any answers. He kept saying he has no bias, on way or another, a sure sign that he probably does. I explained to him that a few of us were harassed regularly by certain posters in very inappropriate ways, and I could send him plenty of examples. He said to let him know if it continues (Though I feel like I've heard that before). He also gave a heads up that a story about Drag Bingo will appear on Sunday.
ReplyDeleteOops. Hope I didn't screw anything up. I just sent the following email to the Mid-Valley Newpapers Regional Executive;
ReplyDeleteHi Chis,
Today, I learned about a bias at the Gazette-Times. In response to a request that a post from an online poster be removed for saying that being gay is a perversion, the Online Editor wrote (and posted) the following;
Editors Note * 'I work with a couple of homosexuals, personally like both of them but also believe that it is a perversion.' The poster is expressing an opinion, not directly attacking anybody or expressing potentially libelous statements. The comment will be allowed to stand."
While I am offended by the fact that the original comment was allowed to stand, I am more concerned about the bias of the Online Editor. That he felt it was ok to call gay people perverts is, to me, unacceptable and violates the Corvallis City Charter; Chapter 2 Section 4 which states;
Section 4. Responsibility to All People. The City shall exercise its power to ensure the equal protection, treatment, and representation of all persons without discrimination including, but not limited to, age, citizenship status, color, familial status, gender identity or expression, marital status, mental disability, national origin, physical disability, race, religion, religious observance, sex, sexual orientation, and source or level of income. Corvallis is a community that honors diversity and diverse interests, and aspires to be free of prejudice, bigotry, and hate.
I have never seen a comment from the Online Editor in those online threads expressing an opinion on any other issue that has been raise. He clearly feels empowered to make such a statement in a public forum. This Online Editor cannot possibly ensure equal protection for those he deems perverted. While he did remove his post at my request, I am requesting from you that some kind of action be taken including, but not limited to, diversity training.
Respectfully,
Tom Johnston
Chairperson - Community Alliance for Diversity
Facilitator - Parents and Friends of Lesbians and Gays Corvallis/Albany
Treasurer- Rainbow Health Resources.
No, thanks for doing that. IT was very strange how the situation was handled. I hope it does not interfere with publicity for Drag Bingo.
ReplyDeleteJust re-read my email to the GT Exec and then read your message again. Sorry, I shouldn't have taken credit for getting the guy to remove the post.
ReplyDeleteWay to handle the situation so well, Ajai!
No worries. I hope something is cleared up, because while he kept saying he has no bias, removing my valid arguments and letting attacks stand sure makes it seem like there is a bias. The way the notes were put on my comments made it look like I had written libelous or incendiary comments. I'm glad they were removed.
ReplyDeleteHe also thought I had originally reported Steve's post, when I said I hadn't, he said 'oh, well I have no way of knowing who reports abuses.' Then why did he think it was me? Fishy.
I just sent a follow up message to Mike McInally, Chris Loretto and Graham Kislingbury. I'm feeling kinda dumb at the moment;
ReplyDeleteMike, Chris and Graham,
I feel I must retract what I have written to you all and apologize for my mistake. It has been made clear to me that this statement "'I work with a couple of homosexuals, personally like both of them but also believe that it is a perversion" was not a statement being made by the Online Editor, but rather, he was quoting another poster (tho, quote marks were not used). I disagree with the Online Editor that this is not a personal attack, but I'm glad it wasn't a statement he was making as a representative of your newspaper.
This is a very sensitive issue to me and I believe I may have overreacted in this case. I hope you will accept my apology. Having said this, I do think some diversity training may be helpful to this person. It's hard to understand how calling homosexuality a "perversion" isn't, in fact, a personal attack on someone who is homosexual.
Regards,
Tom
Holy crap, when and where is this thread? I have been absent for a bit but crap... Sorry you had to deal with this stuff Ajai. No need to feel bad Tom. This crap has gone on for too long and clearly the GT is not planning on doing anything substatial. They just circle the wagons and give lip service. I am proud of ya. You too Ajai...
ReplyDeleteVicky, don't feel bad or down. You hold your own very well, and should be proud of how well you debate these clowns.
Also, remember that, this is how they want you to feel. They want you to feel this way and thus stop posting.
I have felt this way at times as I am usually the only one on "my side" as it were.
All I can say is keep your head up and keep being a voice of reason.
Crap there are double digit pages on this thread... You guys have been busy!
ReplyDeleteThanks for the words of encouragement John! Frankly, I think I get ticked a little too easily. Ajai and Vicky have done a much better job than I have. My hat is off to the both of them.
ReplyDeleteOh, and I'm sorry that you feel you are "the only one on my side". You know, there's an easy way to fix that...change sides!! LOL!!!
Sorry, just had to say that, pal!
Yeah, I was wondering if you saw those quotes. It's an easy mistake, and we all make them. So, I still had concerns so I wrote this. It's too wordy, I know
ReplyDeleteDear Chris,
I spoke with two online editors on your forum today asking about their policies and standards regarding posting, and the discontinuation of posts. Comments from the online editor deleted my posts and wrote in it's place that people can not post incendiary or libelous statements. I asked for those notices to be removed as I felt that it implied that my statements were libelous. One of the statements removed was a statement of fact that 'Homosexuality is already legitimate.' in response to a previous post that an LGBTQ scholarship was trying to 'legitimize homosexuality.' Another was a long passage explaining that homosexuality was not an 'it' but a person. This was replaced as well by a comment explaining why the previous post which states 'homosexuality is a perversion' would not be removed. Both online editors agreed that there was nothing incendiary or libelous about my posts, or one that appeared on another thread, and one suggested that it may have been removed in error. Both times.
Your first online editor referred me to the second, and both agreed to remove the editors comments which were posted by the second editor. I am grateful for that, as it made it look like I was breaking the forum rules when I had not. The second online editor kept assuring me that there was no bias, and I would very much like to believe it was just an accident. But what is one supposed to think when the message 'homosexuality is legitimate,' is deleted, while the statement' homosexuality is a perversion,' is allowed to stand? What type of message is that suppose to send? That it's okay to attack gay people with names, but they are not allowed to defend themselves?
These threads have now been shut down, which I think may be the goal of the people who consistently post attack messages to all articles relating to this topic. These same posters attack me and others on a regular basis. They have suggested I, personally, am a pedophile and repeatedly have called me a pervert. They repost other stories from the Gazette Times with my picture, and full name in hopes of 'exposing' me. They have suggested that I have committed crimes that I have not committed in order to defame my character. Mind you, these are anonymous posters, and I am using my real name. I have repeatedly expressed my concerns, but these incidents have already happened multiple times in this past spring alone, and even before that. I have multiple examples of repeat offenders documented, and would be happy to send examples. I have also expressed my concern to the online editors.
Thank you for reading my concerns,
Ajai TerrazasTripathi
Here are the links to the related threads:
http://www.gazettetimes.com/news/local/article_3c311f98-9ca2-11e0-8f2a-001cc4c002e0.html?mode=comments
http://www.gazettetimes.com/news/local/article_71263a64-85cb-11e0-8d78-001cc4c03286.html?mode=comments
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Wow. Well written Ajai!
ReplyDeleteHa Ha Ha, Tom...
ReplyDeleteYou know I guess I just don't get it. After the civil rights movement you would think that Equal Protection Under The Law would mean something. Why the hell do people care who marries who? I just don't get it!
Hi all,
ReplyDeleteCOE, thanks for the encouragement and you are right that if I gave up responding that would be exactly what those jerks want. Fortunately I can come on here and vent and they have no clue that they get to me from time to time :)
Great letters Tom and Ajai! I hope something positive comes of them.
I did want to mention that I posted on another thread (about cougars) that was shut down and the same thing happened to me. When the editor posted his note that he was shutting down the thread, he posted it over my post (it was the last one before the shut down) and what I had written disappeared, even though I didn't think there was anything that violated the rules in that post. I had the same thoughts and feelings that you did Ajai, though, that it made it look like I had posted a personal attack or some other violation. I am thinking that the editor doesn't realize that he is writing over someone's post and removing it or some such thing. Maybe your heads-up will change the way they handle it when writing their notes.
Please keep us updated on any response you get. It's about time this came to a head and something was done. I've been amazed for quite a while that Eugene has not been banned from the forum. Actually, now that I think of it, on thread about cougars that I spoke of being shut down, one poster, someone who is not a regular, was warned that if he continued to post racist comments that he would be banned. This is after *TWO* such comments that I don't think even touch the level of attacks that Eugene engages in. I have to wonder what in the heck is going on and it really does make me wonder if the editors don't see discrimination based on sexual orientation as as bad as race discrimination. That is definitely a problem.
ReplyDeleteWe raised over $3000 dollars at the Drag Bingo event tonight. I wish I could post that on the thread attached to the story about the event.
ReplyDeleteOh well.
Nice job Tom! Sorry I missed the fun, but I'm glad this event was so successful.
ReplyDeleteAnd, woot woot for New York!!
srjim2000 said on: June 24, 2011, 10:16 pm
ReplyDeleteAnd let's not forget our other *ladies*:
"Kenyan Muslim leaders call for death penalty for gays"
I received a call from Mike McInally, and explained to him m concerns again. It was nice of him to call, I explained the box thing, and he said he'd look into it, which was pretty much the summation of all he said. It was nice of him to call. I explained carefully why I thought Eugene, and MR. Guy specifically should be banned. He agreed that it was inappropriate, but would not go so far as to say his would ban them. I asked him if they had a record of their their deleted comments. He said he dd not know. I let him know my concerns, and it was nice of him to call.
ReplyDeleteOn a side note, I see they banned token scientist, for fairly inane insults toward srjim. That others others have done far worse and remain suggests to me that they are completely biased in their enforcements of their rules. They really don't like intelligent liberals.
Congratulations on the wonderful event. There's a lovely article about it. I was going to comment, but it seems there is no comments section. So I guess that's there solution, for now anyways. I would have just written congratulation the people involved in the event. And I owe you some cash. Oh, and I might have mentioned that 'drag' is a more vogue term than 'cross-dressing,' not to be overly PC, or nothing.
ReplyDeleteMr. G said on: June 26, 2011, 9:47 am
ReplyDeleteExhibit A - The drag queen article in today's GT. No alpha males in the photos, just freaks. The only thing missing from this exhibit of depravity is the local dope smoking kid who drives while wearing makeup and a fruit hat. This is what gender bending does to our kids.
Male emasculation isn't a fear, it's a fact in today's culture.
Read more: http://www.democratherald.com/news/world/europe/article_a62ebce9-40f3-56fb-bf3f-d9d7080e6836.html?mode=comments#ixzz1QP25mrWa
In case it gets deleted, here is my response.
ReplyDeleteAjai said on: June 26, 2011, 10:14 am
There's no need for name-calling. Please note the rules at the bottom of the thread. Be truthful, be nice, share what you know, and stay focused.
Being a man is not about being hostile. One may argue that the fear of being emasculated is natural, but being threatened by gender variance or neutrality isn't particularly masculine.
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Ajai said at: June 26, 2011, 10:23 am
ReplyDeleteIn accordance with the rule I have requested that your previous comment be deleted. I don't think that it is helpful or necessary to call people 'freaks,' in order to degrade them, nor indulge the strange delusions you have about a man in a fruit hat.
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Oh my freaking god...I cannot believe that token scientist was banned! There is no way that his comments even come close to those of Eugene, Steve, or Mr. G. What a load of crap.
ReplyDeleteI reported Mr. G's comment and added this:
ReplyDeleteThis person is referrring to another poster, Ajai, in an attempt to defamate his character and mock him in this forum. He has a history of doing this.
AND, yet Consori is allowed to continue posting, even though his remarks on the LGBT scholarship thread were deleted for 'personal attack and offensive language'! Even though he has been banned multiple times!
ReplyDeleteWhat is going on at that newspaper?
I have a feeling like they are going to ban me, but if they won't protect my confidentiality it's just as well. I can always use a different name.
ReplyDeleteAjai said on: June 26, 2011, 6:36 pm
Well, I'm pretty confused as to why the online editor has the time to delete my comment when the other personal attack I reported this morning remains.
http://www.democratherald.com/news/world/article_a62ebce9-40f3-56fb-bf3f-d9d7080e6836.html
Why are the repeated pleas to protect confidentiality not answered? This person will not stop attacking me. How is it that you have the time to police me, but while flagrant abuses of the system remain in tact. Are you working in collusion with other posters?
Why are your standards different when people attack gay folks, drag queens, Muslims, and women?
I thought the purpose of the online editors was to let you know if it is getting out of hand, not silencing disagreeable views, much like they would do in Saudi Arabia.
I honestly fear being banned for even writing this, but a person shouldn't live in fear. I have expressed my concerns to you privately, but you still won't stop the personal attacks against me. It seems I am not worthy of your protection.
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I saw your post and I'm a bit confuse Ajai...is there a post of your missing from the gender thread because I still see your up there? I thought maybe the editors are off for the day?
ReplyDeleteI'm worried about being banned too. I quit appealing to Nancy in emails because I got the feeling from her responses that she thinks it is whining. Oh well, so much for their little gesture at the bottom of the comments page that says that if things get out of hand to let them know!
OH, you must be talking about the post on the LGBT scholarship thread about homosexuality not needing to be legitimatized...yes, they did remove that, didn't they.
ReplyDeleteOHHH, no, I just saw the one you are talking about on the repression of women thread. HOw cheap that they are totally ignoring the reports on the other threads!!
ReplyDeleteThe post is missing from the Saudi thread, it was removed today cause I wrote it this morning.
ReplyDeleteI received this from Nancy a few days ago,
Thanks for the email. These comments are very useful for our new publisher Chris Loretto to see, and will help shape our discussions about a new comment system.
I sent this to Nancy today, some more whining for her:
I'm pretty disappointed in the results of my efforts. It's hard for me to feel safe commenting as the attacks persist. I honestly don't get why it's okay to try to intimidate a person, and not face repercussions, while others are completly banned for being a little caustic (though not nearly as caustic as the attacks I have received.). I don't get why it's okay to call people 'freaks' yet I am policed for being off topic, while some posters are never on topic. Whatever the standards may be, they are not applied evenly. The only logical explanation is prejudice.
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Perhaps she was out today, and it was the DH online editor. In any case I wrote one more note:
Ajai said on: June 26, 2011, 6:52 pm
Of course, if banned, I know I will be in good company of people like Barefoot and token scientist, or any other thoughtful poster that has been banned for expressing their opinion, while the onslaught of bigotry and hatred is allowed to continue to run rampant, day in and day out.
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Do your best to not get banned...we need you on there!!
ReplyDeleteThey finally had it removed, they apologized and said there was a delay on weekends, though there was no delay in removing my post. I don't believe them.
ReplyDeleteWell, I wonder if it is possible that the editors were on top of it early in the morning and then were not watching later? Maybe give them the benefit of the doubt, because I really liked seeing this:
ReplyDeleteMr. G said on: June 26, 2011, 12:08 pm
Editors Note * It's one thing to express your opinion, but you have launched repeated attacks against the LGBT community. Consider this a warning.
I have some hope that we will begin to see some changes (in a positive direction). I got an email from Mike Mcinally (or, however you spell his name), saying he was looking in to it. Steven Leider has told me that he very much respects Mike, so I'm hoping that the "looking in to it" is a true statement. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
ReplyDeleteIn the meantime, Ajai, I think you've handled the whole thing brilliantly!
I hold no hope that they care at all. They banned token for pretty much nothing, yet darthbeavis can make jokes at the expense of an abused woman, biker can write racist tripe, and Mr. G can make veiled threats. They are crap and their paper is crap.
ReplyDeleteOf course I still comment, but I do not have any faith in the paper. Their concept of fairness is out of whack, and they exist to set an agenda, not report news.
ReplyDeleteOn the plus side, it's good they have a commenting section.
srjims profile says, 'this member is no longer active,' on the 'immigrant pilgrims' letter, it says 'deleted for offensive avatar a warning has been sent.' I'm not so sure what is so offensive about his avatar, racerX's is worse, in my opinion. But all the same, neat.
ReplyDeleteSon of Lyman said on: July 6, 2011, 9:27 pm
ReplyDeleteWow, you republicans at the gazette time are really
something. You definitely revile free speech.
Let's try this one more time:
Son of Lyman said on: July 6, 2011, 7:27 pm
So let's try it once again to see what happens.
"This ( the default ) will all be resolved at the very last minute unless
the republitards are even more stupid than I give them
credit for. If they turn up the heat too suddenly, like this
default will do, then all of the sleeping frogs will suddenly
wake up and jump out of the pot."
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Son of Lyman said on: July 6, 2011, 7:14 pm
Whoa... I hit a nerve somewhere.
One of my comments was summarily deleted.
There was not even an "editor's note" given.
I feel so honored.
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Son of Lyman said on: July 6, 2011, 6:09 pm
How about "Eat the poor" instead?
Will that work for you? They're not needed
anymore. Technology has advanced enough that
large numbers of "useless food eaters", as Dick
Cheney would say, have become redundant.
In a few years you can have obedient machines
catering to your every need. The problem is
that your greed will never be satisfied. You
will still be squabbling among yourselves vying for
the title of "God".
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I think, perhaps, simply that the depiction of a person holding a gun to another person’s head is in extremely poor taste. Anywho, it is a bit amazing that he was banned for this and the likes of Eugene still can post. His posts have been WAY more offensive than the graphic. But if he was asked to remove it and didn’t…oh, well. Good riddance.
ReplyDeleteBiker said on: July 8, 2011, 2:23 pm
ReplyDeleteLet me know when this digresses to drag bingo. I have a whole bucket of ammo for that.
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Eugene said on: July 8, 2011, 2:49 pm
ReplyDeleteOh please, not the victim card again. Saying one has a 'bucket of ammo' for a discussion regarding drag bingo is now a personal threat? Get real.
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Well, I knew the GT was shit, but I am kind of surprised Biker is still able to post there. Anyone still willing to give the benefit of the doubt?
ReplyDeleteBiker said on: July 8, 2011, 10:17 pm
ReplyDeleteNow the story morphs to leg grabbing? Not crotch grabbing? If I ask if you're pulling my leg, would I be referring to the secret gay handshake?
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I responded to that last one... Not sure if I really did anything, but hey, a fella's gotta try!
ReplyDeleteAlso what's the 'gaying of America' thing all about?
ReplyDeleteAjai,
ReplyDeletePlease accept my apology ahead of time, but I'm confused about your posts regarding Biker and a threat. Did Biker write something on the thread about the cop pleading guilty to sexual harassment that was threatening?
I think I'm missing something...
Biker said on: July 8, 2011, 2:23 pm
ReplyDeleteLet me know when this digresses to drag bingo. I have a whole bucket of ammo for that.
I'm not sue about you, but considering what ammunition is used for, I found this comments pretty frightening.
ReplyDeleteWell, it is really difficult to know whether he meant that literally or not, but considering the past post that you referenced, I can completely see why it would be intimidating. I think he is being purposely ambiguous in order to intimidate without looking like he is actually doing so.
ReplyDeleteAnyone mind if we start a new thread so we don't have to scroll so long?
I'm getting a bit annoyed at threads being closed so quickly. In some instances I get it, but I tried to post on Kevin's letter about pot legalization and it looks like it's closed because I get an error message.
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